Tips For
Collectors
Normally you do not have any problem identifying specific data of
your
collector's item, but in some cases it is not always clear, i.e. where
a pressing originates from, or if the song X on the sampler Y is from
the
original album Z or A. This part of the FAQ tries to give some hints on
where to look closer to the disc, or album jacket. I hope it'll be
useful
to some of you...
Grading
Systems
This is a very delicate topic, so let me
explain
why: Gradings do exist all over the world amongst collectors, and can
be
viewn as a description of the shape of a record, and so to determine
the
right value of the item. But yet there are still differences between
the
main collector circles in the U.S., England, and especially Germany.
Also note that vendors - in most cases
professional
ones - often do not pay much attention to those ratings and trying to
charge
too much of your hard earned cash. They buy whole collections for cheap
money, and then looking up the value in their price guides without
considering
the shape of the disc. Of course they stick price stickers with the
highest
possible price on them they can find, normally those for mint/mint
condition.
Another popular sport: Disregarding the
marketplace
they are selling their goodies. I often visit record shows and flea
markets
here in Germany, and there's always a dumbhead who's trying to fool me
with the answer: "You ask me why this record is so expensive?! I read
it
in Record Collector!"
- Exactly the answer I expect from those who are trying to be "my very
special friend"... or why do you think I have to pay an extra for a
german
pressing just because they looked it up in an english or american price
guide?
A serious note to all the
second
hand vendors in the world:
Listen, folks, you may or may not have
noticed,
but every collectors price guide includes
a foreword! You can find this in
the
first part of your book. Please read
them before you start sticking
funny
little prices on your items! And pay
attention where you are selling and
what
price guide you use! - I thank you
for your time.
Enough ranting, let's start with the European gradings:
European Gradings
The common gradings for the german (and
surrounding
countries) market was developed by the german collectors magazine "Oldie-Markt"
in 1978. Their estimation rules still have legality in whole of Europe,
with the exception of Great Britain who rate records by anglo-american
rules. Basically it can be said that the estimations of Oldie-Markt are
half step under those american and english ones. Means: A record
considered
to be "Good+" in Europe is going to be rated "Very Good" by english or
american vendors. Collectors should have this in mind when browsing
foreign
trading or auction lists.
Explainations:
M = mint
The record (the cover) is by all means in new condition. There
are
no extraneous noises audible. Like already bought in a store.
VG = very good
The record was played and shows marginal noise. Hairscratches
are
visible, but not audible.
The cover only shows light wears.
The value of a vg/vg item is 75% of a m/m one.
G = good
The record was played more often. Scratches and surface noise
are
audible. Yet a record rated g is still enjoyable and good to be
purchased.
The cover shows distinct marks, like small rents or paint on
it,
i.e. ink, stamps, adhesive tape, restauring marks from felt-tip pens.
The value of a g/g item is 50% of a m/m one.
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W = worn
The bad ones start here. They've been played above average,
scratches
and noise are clearly audible. Only worth on rare items to complete a
collection.
A cover in this category is worn out, often teared, or soiled
(glue,
stain, waterresistive pens, etc.).
The value of a w/w item is only 25% of a m/m one.
F = fair
The record is of no value acustically and virtually not
playable
anymore. The purcase of such an item is only for archival purposes.
The cover is teared or only kept in pieces.
The value of a f/f record is at best only 10% of a m/m one.
+ / -
The abbreviations are going to be added when the condition of
the
record or the cover is somewhere inbetween the qualities described
above.
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Here's a table wich helps you to determine the value of your
records
(EUROPEAN
market!):
Cover
Record |
M |
VG |
G |
W |
F |
without
cover |
M |
100% |
90% |
80% |
70% |
60% |
25% |
VG |
82,5% |
75% |
67,5% |
60% |
52,5% |
21,5% |
G |
60% |
55% |
50% |
45% |
40% |
15% |
W |
32,5% |
30% |
27,5% |
25% |
22,5% |
8% |
F |
15% |
13% |
12% |
11% |
10% |
4% |
without
record |
10% |
8% |
6% |
4% |
2% |
Fine!
You
saved
your money! |
And the obligatory explaining example:
You're just walking down the record show, and suddenly you spot a
french copy of Son
of
Suzy Creamcheese / Big Leg Emma. Your toenails errect, and you ask
the vendor how much it is. "Oh, this one is extremely rar / super
seldom
/ pristine shape / you won't see this anywhere else / blah, blah,
blah...!
Onehundretandfifty Marks!" (~$70) --- A closer look, and the record can
be best described as "Good", but the sleeve is in "Very Good"
condition.
The single is worth roughly 215,- DM (~$100) in new condition, and the
table above states a value of 55% of an item in m/m shape. That means
the
single is only worth 120,- DM (~$55), and if weapon laws weren't that
rigid
here in Germany I would have pulled out my Magnum...
Great Britain
The following is taken from a copy of "Record
Collector" magazine, July 2000 (the one with the Zappa special...).
The ratings (or "gradings", as they say) were valid for the auctions
and
offers in their mag. The main difference between thems and the german "Oldie-Markt"
is the inclusion of more standards, they have additionally "excellent",
"poor", and even "bad" included. - Now let's see what they say about
their
grading system:
Explainations:
M = mint
The record itself is in brand new
condition
with no surface marks or deterioration in sound quality. The cover and
any extra items such as the lyric sheet, booklet or poster are in
perfect
condition.Records advertised as "Sealed" or "Unplayed" should be mint.
EX = excellent
The record shows some signs of having
been
played, but there is very little lessening in sound quality. the cover
and packaging might have slight wear and/or creasing.
VG = very good
The record has obviously been played
many
times, but displays no major deterioration in sound quality, despite
noticeable
surface marks and the occasional light scratch. Normal wear and tear on
the cover or extra items, without any major defects, is acceptable.
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G = good
The record has been played so much that
the
sound quality has noticeably deteriorated, perhaps with some distortion
and mild scratches. The cover and contents suffer from folding,
scuffing
of edges, spine splits, discoloration, etc.
F = fair
The record is still just playable but
has
not been cared for properly and displays considerable surface noise; it
may even jump. The cover and contents will be torn, stained and/or
defaced.
P = poor
The record will not play properly due to
scratches,
bad surface noise, etc. The cover and contents will be badly damaged or
partly missing.
B = bad
The record is unplayable or might even
be
broken, and is only of use as a collection filler.
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CDs and Cassettes
As a general rule, CDs and cassettes
either
play perfectly - in which case they are in Mint condition - or they
don't,
in which case their value is minimal. Cassette tapes is liable to
deteriorate
with age, even if it remains unplayed, so care should be taken when
buying
old tapes.
CDs are difficult to grade visually:
they
can look perfect but actually be faulty, while in other cases they may
appear damaged but still play perfectly. Cassette and CD inlays and
booklets
should be graded in the same way as record covers and sleeves. In
general,
the plastic containers for cassettes and CDs can easily be replaced, if
they are broken or scratched, but card covers and digipaks are subject
to the same wear as record sleeves. |
They have a table with the value of each item in those conditions
mentioned above which can be condensed to a simplier one with
percentage
declarations (The British one!):
M |
EX |
VG |
G |
F |
P |
B |
100% |
80% |
50% |
30% |
15% |
8% |
2,5% |
America
I just have to find me a copy of "Goldmine"
yet,
so stay tuned...
Pressing
Plants
EAN (European Article
Numbering)
You
ever noticed the barcodes on the jackets and jewel cases, but always
wondered
what it is all about? You ask yourself how this info can be of any use
to you? - When I first compiled and rearranged Bossk's(R) Singles FAQ I
stumbled across the Maxi-CD "I Don't
Wanna Get Drafted". I have this one in my own collection, and
searched
about the country of production, since the FAQ only mentioned Europe as
its origin. Something like "Made in England", or "Printed in England",
but no result...
I got curious about this coding when I got my CD-ROM drive and
burner,
who, like most of the newer ones now, are cabable of reading and
writing
CD-TEXT. With this functionality the burner also reads and writes
ISRC-codes
and the EAN number on the disc. More and more record companies use this
feature now to mark their discs digitally, and so I began to do a
little
bit of research.
Pay attention to the first 2 to
3 digits of the number.
Back to the problem, I now was able to determine the country of
production, which is also in most cases the country of release. As you
can see: Sometimes helpful to know what it is! 8-)
Excerpt from the link below:
What are the country codes?
Lots of people have requested the codes. Here is a partial list.
Remember, it indicates the country that issued the code, NOT THE
COUNTRY
OF ORIGIN OF THE PRODUCT. The authoritative list is here:
Country Codes
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00-13 USA & Canada
-
20-29 reserved for local use
(store/warehouse)
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30 -37 France
-
400-440 Germany
-
45
Japan
-
46
Russian
Federation
-
471 Taiwan
-
474 Estonia
-
475 Latvia
-
477 Lithuania
-
479 Sri Lanka
-
480 Philippines
-
482 Ukraine
-
484 Moldova
-
485 Armenia
-
486 Georgia
-
487 Kazakhstan
-
489 Hong Kong
-
49
Japan
-
50 UK
-
520 Greece
-
528 Lebanon
-
529 Cyprus
-
531 Macedonia
-
535 Malta
-
539 Ireland
-
54
Belgium
& Luxembourg
-
560 Portugal
-
569 Iceland
-
57
Danmark
-
590 Poland
-
594 Romania
-
599 Hungary
-
600-601 South Africa
-
609 Mauritius
-
611 Morocco
-
613 Algeria
-
619 Tunisia
-
622 Egypt
-
625 Jordan
-
626 Iran
-
64
Finland
-
690-692 China
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70
Norway
-
729 Israel
-
73
Sweden
-
740-745 Guatemala, El Salvador, Honduras, Nicaragua, Costa Rica
&
Panama
-
746 Republica
Dominicana
-
750 Mexico
-
759 Venezuela
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76
Switzerland
-
770 Colombia
-
773 Uruguay
-
775 Peru
-
777 Bolivia
-
779 Argentina
-
780 Chile
-
784 Paraguay
-
785 Peru
-
786 Ecuador
-
789 Brazil
-
80 -83 Italy
-
84
Spain
-
850 Cuba
-
858 Slovakia
-
859 Czech
-
860 Yugoslavia
-
869 Turkey
-
87
Netherlands
-
880 South Korea
-
885 Thailand
-
888 Singapore
-
890 India
-
893 Vietnam
-
899 Indonesia
-
90 -91 Austria
-
93
Australia
-
94
New
Zealand
-
955 Malaysia
-
977 ISSN
(International
Standard Serial Number for periodicals)
-
978 ISBN
(International
Standard Book Number)
-
979 ISMN
(International
Standard Music Number)
-
980 Refund
receipts
-
99
Coupons
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Additional Links:
ISRC (International
Standard
Recording Code)
The IFPI build a code to distinguish each recorded and released
track.
Useful for radio archives and stations to find and/or identify a
specific
recording, RDS (Radio Data Service) and more. Maybe even useful for
collectors
and fans if in doubt if the track on sampler XY is the same as the
original
released version, or maybe a remix, or newly remastered. The system is
quite new, so the advantage of this will take affect on later releases
(If there ever will be new ZFT releases...). The numbering can be found
on discs roughly from 1998 on.
Example: ISRC FR - Z03 - 98 -
00212
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ISRC = Code identifier
-
FR = Country Code (2 characters) FR = France
-
Z03 = Registrant Code (3 characters) Z03 = Mercury France
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98 = Year of Reference (2 characters) 98 = 1998
-
00212 = Designation Code (5 characters)
When to label a track with new ISRC?
Re-mix: multiple recordings produced in the same recording
session
without any change in orchestration, arrangement or artist |
new ISRC per recording |
Playing time changes |
new ISRC |
Compilation without editing of individual tracks |
same ISRCs |
Processing of historical recordings |
new ISRCs |
Back catalogue |
new ISRC for first re-release |
Recordings sold, distributed by agent(s) |
same ISRC |
One of the first Zappa CDs released with this code is the Mystery
Disc, which has US-RY2-98-00938 to 00972
Anyone knows a link to a list of all registrant codes? Mail
me!
Additional Links:
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Created: 11.02.2001
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